So you’re ready to buy a very high-quality flatbed scanner to digitize your analog prints and film, but now you're having a hard time deciding between the and the Photo Scanners.
Don't feel bad. Unless you're already extremely knowledgeable about high-end scanners, let me tell you, it's extremely difficult to understand which model will give you the most benefits and value for your photo collection by just comparing the sales and specifications pages.
Whether you or an avid hobby photographer, a true professional, or just want to get all the quality you can out of your prints and film, either one of these models is going to give you exceptional results.
But, I want to help you feel confident you're going to make the right choice. Below, in plain English that will make it very easy to understand, I've written out and explained in detail, the 5 differences between the two models.
Higher Image Quality
If you've stared at photos of the and the V850 Pro, you've probably noticed they look fairly identical right? This is in fact because other than the identifying name written across the top right front of each device, their physical casing is exactly the same for both. However inside, it's a little different.
Both scanners are equipped with a Dual Lens System — unique to the V800 series of scanners in their current lineup. (This system was also available in the V700 series the V800 series later replaced) This means when you scan a paper print, the scanner will automatically use a high-resolution lens capable of 4800 dpi (optical). And when you are scanning film in the included film holders, it will then automatically choose a second “super resolution” lens capable of scanning at 6400 dpi (optical). You won't find a two-lens setup like this on even the next model down in the lineup — the single-lens only.
But, with the flagship, Epson decided to take the image quality one step higher by adding what they call “High Pass Optics“. The purpose of the 850 Pro is to pull out every last possible amount of quality from the scanner using some additional internal design refinements to ensure minimum optical distortion:
- Anti-reflective coatings on the optics
- High-reflection coatings on the mirrors
In an with Mark Roslon, Senior Product Manager of Epson America, Inc. states about the V850 Pro:
“The V850 has all of the little extras that we know how to do to make that image quality better. The structure of the two scanners are identical, but the V850 Pro has anti-reflection coatings on the optics, and high-reflection coatings on the mirrors, that simply eek out the last bit of image quality we can get from that system.”
To put it simpler, by coating these surfaces in this manner, they are able reduce the amount of stray light they don't want getting inside the lenses, and they are able to increase the amount of light they do want bouncing off the mirrors. This means theoretically, your images will be even more accurate because the scanner has to do less work to process out obscurities unintentionally captured by the lenses.
Faster Scanning Times
Epson Perfection V850 Pro
Because the case and components of the and are nearly identical, you wouldn't think there would be any speed difference in how long an identical scan would take to complete with either model.
However, while continuing to speak about the improved image quality of the V850 Pro, Mark Roslon also adds:
“[The V850 Pro] will also scan a little bit faster because we know the processor understands the data coming in is cleaner, that there is less processing to do to make sure that image is very precise, so we can run it a little bit faster because of it.”
I'm sorry to say I don't have access to both scanners side-by-side to do a speed test with identical settings and photographs. Owning both models would be quite the luxury wouldn't it! But, I've read multiple sources back when these models were released that say the V850 Pro scans 33% faster than the V800 Photo. If anyone finds evidence to back this up or prove otherwise, I would be very interested in hearing from you so I can modify this post and link to the supporting write-up(s).
Additional Film Holders
Both the and come with film holders to make straightening and flattening your film easier while scanning. The difference however is that inside the box of the V850 Pro, you will find a surprise.
- The V800 Photo comes with a single set of 4 film holders.
- The V850 Pro comes with not one, but exactly two sets of 4 film holders (total of 8).
The film holders are actually new and improved over those sold with the previous V700 and V750 models. This happened based on customer feedback that the holders should be more rigid this time.
Epson Perfection V800 and V850 Pro Film Holders (Set of 4)
Each set comes with one of each of the following holders:
- 35mm mounted slides — holds 12 frames
- 35mm film strips — holds 3 strips (up to 18 frames)
- Medium-format strip – holds 1 frame (up to 6 x 20cm)
- 4 inch x 5 inch frame – holds 1 frame
Why would you need two sets of film holders?
In real-world film scanning, you're dealing with a workflow like the following:
- Load your film into a film holder
- Wait for the scanner to scan the film in the holder
- Remove the holder from the scanner bed
- Empty the film from the holder
- Start this process over by re-loading more film
If you're not busy dusting off your next batch of film you want to scan, or giving your last scanned images specific filenames in your computer, with a second set of film holders, you could save time by filling up a second film holder while the first one is finishing up being scanned. By having an extra set of film holders, its possible to increase your ability for greater productivity.
Epson Perfection V800 and V850 Pro Slide Holder
Different Scanning Software
Epson Scan Scanning Software (Included)
It may not be completely apparent by reading the dense “Overview” sales pages of the Epson and, but both of these scanners actually come with two different pieces of scanning software. You are free to use whichever you would like — or even both.
First you get a copy of Epson Scan, a very adequate and easy to use application made by Epson. It's included with all models of their Perfection Photo scanner lineup. Secondly, you also get a copy of LaserSoft Imaging's SilverFast scanning software. But, depending on which scanner model you buy, there's a slight difference in which version is included:Epson V800 Photo SilverFast SE Epson V850 Pro SilverFast SE Plus
At the time I'm finishing up this articlr, this currently is all you learn from the Overview sales pages on Epson's website. One is called SilverFast SE, and the other is called SilverFast SE Plus. But, what are their differences? Do you really need SE Plus, or will SE be adequate for your scanning needs? For those unfamiliar with SilverFast, here's all the information I've compiled for you, to help you make an easier purchasing decision.
SilverFast SE vs SilverFast SE Plus (The Differences)
If you don't include their SilverFast software written to control very specialized high-end scanners — such as Heidelberg drum scanners and medical x-ray film scanners — there are basically three versions of their scanning software SilverFast you need to known about. In order of features included, they are SilverFast SE, SilverFast SE Plus, and then their highest version is SilverFast Ai Studio. All three are calibrated to work well with the Epson V800 series of scanners.
Comes with V800 Photo (Retail Price USD — if bought separately)
- SE is their “entry level” scanning software for “uncomplicated and professional scanning specifically designed for beginners.”
SilverFast SE Plus
Comes with V850 Pro (Retail Price USD 9 — if bought separately)
- All of the features included with SilverFast SE.
- Also includes the following important functionality for advanced users:
This procedure captures the light image area's details in the first pass and the the shadow details in the second. Afterwards an algorithm calculates the final scan, which now contains any detail, from each single scan.”Kodochrome Features Scanning Kodochrome slides can be challenging and often leaves them with a bluish tint. “By implementing improved Kodachrome routines, it's finally possible to achieve high-quality scans of Kodachrome slides with the highest possible Dynamic Range, color calibrated and free of bluecast, dust and scratches.” Auto Frame Alignment Works in unison with the “Automatic Frame Detection” feature (Also available in ‘SilverFast SE' to “align the frames in a rectangular order with a single mouse click.”
LEFT: After Prescan | MIDDLE: After Auto Frame Detection | RIGHT: After Auto Frame Alignment (Image Source: Mac OSX with 700 Series scanner)Printer Calibration (Sold Separately) Includes the ability to use LaserSoft's Printer Calibration software with SilverFast (Optional – software sold separately).
“Output or printer calibration is very useful when the task is to reproduce an image via printer under the condition of keeping the colors and hues as original and predictable as possible. Without creating an appropriate ICC profile which takes into account the printer, ink cartridges and paper used, the task is almost impossible. The SilverFast 8 Printer Calibration is an exclusive feature for calibrating the printer using a flatbed scanner, which is appropriate for professionals and for beginners as well, due to its easy handling and smart price-performance ratio.”
(Printer Calibration only works with the SilverFast SE Plus and SilverFast Ai Studio versions)
Included Scanner Calibration Software
X-Rite i1Scanner Software
Finally, the last difference with the, is you will get the “X-Rite i1Scanner with reflective/transparent IT8 targets.” The Epson product listing makes it sound like you are getting a separate hardware scanning device. But, in actuality, you are getting another piece of software called “X-Rite i1Scanner” and IT8 targets that work with it. These two go hand-in-hand to calibrate your scanner for color accuracy.
The process has you scan the flat IT8 target with your V800 series scanner. The i1Scanner software then analyzes this scanned file and compares it to a reference file associated with your color target. The difference between the two is mapped into a “color profile” that is assigned for you that you can now use with your scanning software. The i1Scanner software will work with the Epson V800 Photo, if you were wondering. it just isn't included with the purchase of one.
IT8 Color Target for X-Rite i1 Scanner Software
If you were at all confused before in how the Epson V800 Photo and V850 Pro are different, I certainly hope I was able to clear things up for you. If you still have questions, let me know in the comments canon vs epson photo scanner below.
Epson Perfection V800 Photo
Epson Perfection V850 Professional
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